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patriots

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Or maybe it's time for you to get an job so you know what it is like not to have time 24/7.

I have not seen any report made by you on the forum today..
i have job and i not play 24/7
why you are so mad?
and do you think i lie,if i say i do.
 

kVN#

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i have job and i not play 24/7
why you are so mad?
and do you think i lie,if i say i do.
I ain't mad, not even in the least..
You come here, asking to be promoted to admin for exactly... What?
Don't expect serious answers on a stupid question..
 
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Hodenkobold 2.0

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Patriots, just let it be... it seems like these guys do not want any newcomers for the last month of jff (to be fair, it's partially understandable). However, these servers are really facing problems with many hackers and even obvious hackers can easily play 1 hour without being kicked (though you wouldn't need any expertise to detect 20 headshots in a row). I have also offered my help, but sadly nobody wanted it. Instead they just closed the thread, so I could not even answer to my own post anymore. Well, I accept it (whatelse can I do), but to me it appears strange to say "we cannot be there 24/7" and at the same time not accepting any help (there are people who can detect hackers, though I might not be one of them...). Well, hoping to get some hacker free time during the last month. Cheers!
 

Hodenkobold 2.0

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Please correct me if I am wrong, but in the case which I was referring to, making a demo would not have added any value. We were playing with 10-12 people when an obvious (!) hacker joined, giving headshots from all over the map. Approx. half of the people directly reported this guy and called for admin for minutes, but it seemed as if no admin was available (I cant remember the number of ppl the guy was reported to, but it was like 1 or 2 and nobody joined to look after him - they might have been busy with other things). As no admin helped, people went spec or left. I waited in spec, hoping that the hacker would lose fun, but he stayed. So I left as well...

If I made a demo and posted it here, there would have been the same members online who should have received the reports anyway, right? Even if there were some more, how high would the probability have been that somebody watched it within 5-20 minutes and helped us quickly? Please don't understand this as an accuse, I know that you have jobs etc. However, you cannot deny that if one of the 12 players was an admin, he could have made a demo for proof, kicked the hacker directly so that the game would have "stayed alive". This would not have been a complicated case...
 

kVN#

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Patriots, just let it be... it seems like these guys do not want any newcomers for the last month of jff (to be fair, it's partially understandable). However, these servers are really facing problems with many hackers and even obvious hackers can easily play 1 hour without being kicked (though you wouldn't need any expertise to detect 20 headshots in a row). I have also offered my help, but sadly nobody wanted it. Instead they just closed the thread, so I could not even answer to my own post anymore. Well, I accept it (whatelse can I do), but to me it appears strange to say "we cannot be there 24/7" and at the same time not accepting any help (there are people who can detect hackers, though I might not be one of them...). Well, hoping to get some hacker free time during the last month. Cheers!
I will take my time to answer you.
Beeing accepted as a member has always been the same. You apply, we discuss and vote about it, we make a decision... It is all based on how well you're liked and on how you contribute to help...

Please be so kind as to tell us, why exactly you deserve membership or "admin"..?
Just because we're closing JFF doesn't mean we will directly give everyone admin rights. These right s need to be deserved. Sadly deserving them needs a lot of time, which we don't have. Don't take it personally..


And yes, your Thread did get closed because we do not accept new members anymore. JFF is closing their doors. Beeing able to still play till the end of April is just a farewell gift from Thunder.
 

Hodenkobold 2.0

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I do not deserve membership and I would not have applied if JFF stayed alive (at least I would not have applied now, maybe in a few months, who knows). And I do understand the process and of course you do not give admin rights to everybody (that's why I wrote "partially understandable" in my prior post).

However, it is sad to see JFF ending like this. Almost everyday you see hackers who can usually hack without any consequences (to be honest, I do not play every day anymore for the same reason). Therefore, I tried to make a "farewell gift" as well, to help JFF and the other players to detect and handle hackers. I thought this gift might be welcomed as many of you and also Thunder complained about hackers and a lack of time to deal with them. Looks like I have been wrong.

For a small percentage, I might have been selfish as well because I'd like to enjoy a last month without any hackers. But honestly, this was rather offered for the community and not because I want to be an admin.
 

ElementX

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http://forum.justforfun-gaming.com/forums/ban-request.15/

http://forum.justforfun-gaming.com/threads/general-guide-to-cheater-reporting.22629/

BR3 and I invested a lot of our time to make that how-to thread (facepalm). it tells you all you need to know to make a ban request. This is the sure way to ban someone. the only problem might be the time it takes for that to happen. Since (as it seems) there are only less than 5 members making bans.

We do not know you, you seem like nice guys, but we do not know your cheat detecting skills. We give you ban rights and you might ban the remaining players left on jff. You might even do that by mistake, i know i did it once, had 2000 kicks with one single ban. So, what would someone, who in our mind has even less experience, do? imagine if you are a sheriff of this crooked town and you have this guy approach you and ask you for a loaded gun and a badge and he tells you he can do everything you do. You would stand there with this worried look and just ask him > boy, do you even know what i do?

Do you think members have it better? i spent 4 months as a level 1 member and had no freaking way to even kick a cheater, and my ban request, which would be the same as your ban request, would go unanswered for hours. We all went through that process. things have always been this way. do you think you can change them? You could be active for 18h a day and still have someone tell you he played for an hour against some aimbotter. You could be recording one aimbotter on one server and have 3 more on second server, and maybe even 2 more in another cod. Do you think your rights to ban someone would help all those other players?

Again, you can make a ban request, and someone might see that before they hear the report, a lot of ppl just turn off the programs that sound the reports. So, forum and making demos could be the fastest way to ban someone, try it. I really wish you 2 could go through the process and learn all these things for yourselves, but, we all know what happens in 30 days. The only thing we can offer you is the satisfaction of knowing that you did ban that one mofo who did not play fair. Forum ban request will be looked into for sure (99%), the only problem is the time, and it might even be sooner than later, who knows
 

Hodenkobold 2.0

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Thanks man, understood. I was indeed referring to the time aspect which is not optimal in this process, but I understand the issue.
Anyway, 4 months as a lvl 1 member? Holy f*** :D This rather sounds like a governmental/ public agency than a digital clan ;-)

Cheers guys!
 

ElementX

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well, they did gave me ban rights without the lvl 2 promotion, soooo 7000 bans later the world is still ending. And you might even say that all those bans did not even matter, god knows even i said it myself. But it mattered to those players who got to play a cheat-free game at that time. I like to think i helped them, and you guys can help as well, by making demos and posting them on forum. Any little thing would still help. there isn't a lot of satisfaction, but there is some.
 

Hodenkobold 2.0

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I will try my best then! Maybe I can at least make one hacker getting banned. Btw, on my personal virtual admin ranking, you are waaaay ahead of the competition :D
 

OTe

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@Hodenkobold 2.0 you're a joke! You come to the forum with such an introduction, and then you say you want to help.

I would like to help in maintaining the quality off the JFF Servers
I have also offered my help, but sadly nobody wanted it. Instead they just closed the thread, so I could not even answer to my own post anymore.
:eek:

Therefore, I tried to make a "farewell gift" as well, to help JFF and the other players to detect and handle hackers.
In fact, you are not helping anything, just you cry for the admin rights (lvl4). o_O

it seems like these guys do not want any newcomers for the last month of
Well, this statement almost covers reality, but let's make it clear, we don't want to promote members at all costs. For example, if h1m1k would ask for membership I would give it to him immediately, and probably other admins would agree with me. He's not just telling that he is helping, but he's been doing it for a long time, just look here, in my opinion, when someone wants help, looks like this.

After all, why should we give any right for you, if we do not know your skills, we know that according to your profile you are 118 years old (what is obvious is not true), I know, I know, now comes the hackneyed formula, is that it was just a joke. :confused:
 
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Ben

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@Hodenkobold 2.0 you're a joke! You come to the forum with such an introduction, and then you say you want to help.



:eek:



In fact, you are not helping anything, just you cry for the admin rights (lvl4). o_O



Well, this statement almost covers reality, but let's make it clear, we don't want to promote members at all costs. For example, if h1m1k would ask for membership I would give it to him immediately, and probably other admins would agree with me. He's not just telling that he is helping, but he's been doing it for a long time, just look here, in my opinion, when someone wants help, looks like this.

After all, why should we give any right for you, if we do not know your skills, we know that according to your profile you are 118 years old (what is obvious is not true), I know, I know, now comes the hackneyed formula, is that it was just a joke. :confused:
Last Month What's your fucking problem.. He is not a joke and not anything. He wants to help and be admin for last 1 month... people almost not playing anymore and servers empty.. so whats your problem to give him an admin that can ban cheaters or i don't know what

3.. 2.. 1.. anyone against me. :p go fuck. your welcome.
 

ElementX

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so whats your problem to give him an admin that can ban cheaters or i don't know what
only you would go through all those replies about why we do not give him ban rights and still ask why we do not give him those rights! GJ man! maybe i should delete your profile like you asked me to. It will be a less annoying last month in jff for sure. But yeah, everyone is against you, and no, it isn't your fault, keep thinking that!
 
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Hybrid

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only you would go through all those replies about why we do not give him ban rights and still ask why we do not give him those rights!
Reading takes time, just like making ban requests. There are people who take their time and there is ben.

2 years of constant complaining. Not a single achievement on his side. But we are the d*ckheads
 

Ben

Kickrighted
Kickrighted
Hmm.. Element You Can delete.. Your welcome

2 Years That all of you keep taking me serious that im complaining and crying and give a shit.. and isnt true hybrid? that the first time i think i saw you.. when you killed me you called me ''low'' I still remember this thing when i didnt tell you a single thing before.
I think Im Free to complain and cry so why you give a shit please telling me? because im telling to cheaters that they are cheaters? is it a joke? or because i complain on your ''bad admin work'' or maybe because i dont get a ''demo''? you all calling me childish.. well im 17 so goodjob
Thats me :p Hmmmm What you know about achievement I have got?
or maybe because im jewish haha i dont know.
or maybe because i wanted to kill my self for real and i need some attention so all of you keep lauging and and spam like a childs all time.
Im happy that these servers close. not gonna see you again or anything else like that.
good day
Mr Bad english :p
Ben
 

ElementX

Braindead
Game Admin
Oh Ben, it's not the fact that you cry cheater for everyone that kills you, it's not that you could not make a single demo and yet call our work "bad", it's not that you are jewish, it's not that you wanted us to ban you cause you simply cannot stay away from our servers that you are so happy about being shut down, it's not that you are this huge attention sluut, it's none of those things. It's just a fact that you are 17y old and already a total a-hole. You just want things to be delivered to you on a golden plate. Kid, we are not your parents or your battlers, if you want something, you need to move your ass and get it. And who do you think will miss whom when jff ends? Let's just see how happy you will be on that May 1st.
 
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